Posts by Gone and forgotten

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Pick your belief system

by Giordano in

i think we've all noticed a ton of newbe's these past months.

one part of escaping or thinking about escaping the jw's is coming to terms with what you believe now and/or what direction you are leaning towards.. here is a site that has a quick quiz that may be of some worth or just for fun.

i took it when i first signed on here and the results surprised me because it was pretty accurate.. you don't have to sign up for anything and when you finish you will get a percentage answer on 20 major belief systems.

Gone and forgotten

Reform Judiasm first, Quaker second, and Mainline conservative protestant third. JW came in at #18. I think I am even more confused now...maybe I need to redo this when my blood sugar levels at normal instead of having me nearly comatose and not thinking clearly...lol!

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Watchtower in local newspaper

by lostinthought in

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forgive me if this has been posted already but this was in my local paper today.. http://m.recordonline.com/article/20150307/news/150309486/0/wap&template=wapart.

if you have time to read, this is an interesting article talking about watchtowers property in ulster and orange county ny and how much the properties are worth.

it also goes on to show how the tax exempt stays is hurting the communities..

Gone and forgotten

Thanks Nonjwspouse...this emotion is just catching me by surprise. I haven't turned in field service time in nearly 10 years...I haven't been regularly associated with a congregation in about that same amount of time. Due to an extremely dysfunctional marriage, that I attempted to get help from the elders for...to no avail...I just ended up drifting away. I finally made the decision 4 years ago that I didn't want to go back...every time we tried, my life just got worse and worse, not necessarily due to the congregation or WTS, but due to my crazy ex's extremes, and I just couldn't take it anymore. Until recently, I never really looked any deeper into things...but now that I am stuck at home most of the time due to an illness that I am recovering from, I have the time to delve into things I haven't in the past...Over the past year, I have really been taking my life back, but due to my JW indoctrination, have been conflicted and had to make decisions based on what I wanted...and with great feelings of guilt and dread, went against JW teachings/beliefs...then I happened across this website and it has been a lifesaver for me. I am starting to "wake up" to who I really am...completely throwing off the JW personality...and now I am happy again. I didn't realize how much of my personality was lost...and am really disappointed in how my life has turned out due to my decision to become a JW. I also didn't really know how tightly my eyes were closed to the hypocrisy of the WTS. If I had been confronted about the child abuse issues...I would have vehemently denied them. Same with NGO issue among others...I always felt uncomfortable with how superior (not sure if that's the right word) JW's make themselves to others...while claiming to be the most humble of people.

I currently don't have any close contact with any JW...I was the only one in my family, and only my ex's aunt is in. She is the only one that is currently privy to my current lifestyle and as a result she has shunned me...although I am not DF'd or DA'd. But that's ok...it's better that way...it keeps my ex that much further from my life...but honestly, she's one of the most hypocritical JW that I know.

There are so many good people stuck in the organization...so blinded and brainwashed...and I feel so helpless to do anything about it. I know the best thing for me to do is to life my life HAPPY and FREE! It's a little late for me to start doing some of the things I dreamed of 30 years ago when this infection entered my life...but not all of them! And the best revenge I can get is by living well!

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Watchtower in local newspaper

by lostinthought in

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friends

forgive me if this has been posted already but this was in my local paper today.. http://m.recordonline.com/article/20150307/news/150309486/0/wap&template=wapart.

if you have time to read, this is an interesting article talking about watchtowers property in ulster and orange county ny and how much the properties are worth.

it also goes on to show how the tax exempt stays is hurting the communities..

Gone and forgotten

For a group that discourages participation in sports...seriously, they built sports facilities??? They would be better off offering to assist with maintaining the roads in those communities or assisting with emergency services...I'm sure they have fire trucks and ems services...that would definitely help offset the costs to the community in a very long lasting way. Oh...why not provide "free" books to the schools...they could print them up...LOL!! And how are they benefitting the local businesses? They don't pay the "workers" enough to spare any money to go spend any money in the community. Granted, once the sheeple start visiting the facilities that may benefit the local economy somewhat...but what do you bet the open their own hotels and restaurants? And those will all be tax exempt too! You know, the more I learn...just learned about the NGO/DPI at the UN, and just started reading Crisis of Conscience the more and more pi$$3d off I get. I never considered myself anti JW, just didn't want to be one anymore...didn't want to live that life any longer...but now...and the worst part is, I don't know what to do with all these pent up emotions...it feels like I should be taking some action, but what??? Other than living a happy life, free of WT Land, I don't know what else I could/should do!

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a situation I know of and the mind set of the elders.

by joe134cd in

ok here's the situation i know of.. a women was in a situation where she was forced to reveal a hidden sin and was given a private reproof for it.

before this she had an other wise clean slate.

btw the reproof was for an unrelated matter and had nothing to do with apostasy.

Gone and forgotten

Hi Joe,

I agree with all above statements. When I was "weak" and my crazy ex husband was DF'd, no one could be bothered with me. One sister did make an effort, but as she was a single mom wit 3 teens, worked FT and pioneered, that didn't last too long. The elders would come visit the ex while they thought there was hope for him...but never even tried to assist me...although I had been asking for help for years...so she can just chalk it up to her being a female. If she's single without family...they aren't going to bother with her very often if at all. This is rather typical behavior, so she can probably relax and get on with her life. Maybe you should direct her to this site so she can find the "fellowship" she is looking for and see that she is not so all alone in this.

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THEOCRATIC KENOSIS: the Watchtower Organization's ultimate goal for humanity

by TerryWalstrom in

ever wonder why jehovah's witnesses have almost nothing but words instead of love?.

every wonder why jw's praise their corporate leaders rather than jesus?.

every wonder why faith is only demonstrated by allowing children to die and molesters to escape, or disasters to be welcomed through obstinate demonstrations of loyalty to the org?.

Gone and forgotten

Terry,

This post just filled in a lot of holes for me. Prior to becoming a JW, I had a very spiritual nature...this was lost and replaced by what I now recognize a pseudo-intellectualisation of religion/faith/belief. (I don't know if that makes any sense...) One of the things that I missed and felt a lack of was a feeling of connection to God/Spirit in the "Truth." I secretly envied people that went to "church" and felt the love of God and the movement of Spirit. Even now, after years of slowly fading and not being at a meeting in over 3 years, I still haven't been able to reconnect with my spiritual nature...and I miss that. Still haven't figured out how to get that back...

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Cheers to all! I'm in the house now! Finally signed up.

by Lifeisfun in

hi readers and lurkers, .

i decided it was time to register to the site.

after all these years, it was just a matter of time.

Gone and forgotten

Welcome Lifeisfun!

I've only been here a few months and have more into my future in this short period than I did in the past 5 years fade...these folks are great!

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JW's and the care of the elderly

by Lynnie in

i've been df'd for 35 years and my uber pioneer mother is getting on in years, 84 to be exact and starting to have signs of dementia and the social worker is worried that she can't be left alone at all anymore.

she just had her second hip replaced and is in rehab.

my uber elder cousin is the power of attorney since my mom was told i couldn't be trusted since i'm df'd.

Gone and forgotten

Lynnie at this point you have no responsibility towards any of them. I was told by an elder that since my father hadn't been a real part of my life as I was growing up, that I was not responsible for his care when he became ill. Same principle should apply here. I would respond to the POA, that it is legally his responsibility, and since you are DF'd you wouldn't want to offend your mother's conscience by being in her presence. That ought to frost his cookies.

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